Comments on: The American Chestnut Tree is Coming Back. Who is It For? https://modernfarmer.com/2023/09/american-chestnut-tree-coming-back/ Farm. Food. Life. Wed, 03 Jul 2024 18:58:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Doug Coleman https://modernfarmer.com/2023/09/american-chestnut-tree-coming-back/#comment-73782 Fri, 10 May 2024 19:14:34 +0000 https://modernfarmer.com/?p=150232#comment-73782 Interesting article, bur a few quibbles. Chestnuts are almost 95 percent insect pollinated. Another plant even more central to all native peoples is corn. That IS wind pollinated. And there have been transgenic GMO corn for years with no objections raised. I would not characterize the leaves of chestnuts as “feathery” either. A species of oak Quercus montana [ chestnuts oak ] has leaves similar to a chestnuts. Leaf margins have rounded teeth rather than pointed teeth as in the case of the chestnuts. There’s an organization in the Qzarks working on a related chestnut cousin species, the chinquapin. There was an article about that a few years ago in National Geographic. I’m old now but enjoyed eating chinquapins as a child. About the size of a large acorn/hazelnut with a nice sweet flavor, no need for roasting.

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By: Jean https://modernfarmer.com/2023/09/american-chestnut-tree-coming-back/#comment-71422 Thu, 15 Feb 2024 16:45:17 +0000 https://modernfarmer.com/?p=150232#comment-71422 In reply to Concerned about the Agenda.

It was brought over by descendants of European settlers, who searched the world avidly for new plants and animals to import. https://portal.ct.gov/CAES/Fact-Sheets/Plant-Pathology/Chestnuts-and-the-Introduction-of-Chestnut-Blight

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By: Jean https://modernfarmer.com/2023/09/american-chestnut-tree-coming-back/#comment-71421 Thu, 15 Feb 2024 16:43:31 +0000 https://modernfarmer.com/?p=150232#comment-71421 In reply to William Oliveri.

It was brought over by Europeans who traveled the world, collecting new animals and plants wherever they went and importing them to new locations.
“G. H. Powell wrote in 1900 (9) that Japanese chestnut trees (Castanea crenata) were first imported in 1876 by nurseryman S. B. Parsons of Flushing, New York (in the New York City borough of Queens, at the western end of Long Island). These were widely distributed, and two of them were planted and still survive in southern Connecticut. In 1882, William Parry in New Jersey imported 1,000 grafted Japanese chestnut trees. In the West, Luther Burbank planted a box of seeds sent by his collector from Japan in 1886. He subsequently had over 10,000 bearing trees growing in his Santa Rosa, California, nursery. Three of Burbank’s selections were sold to Judge Coe in Connecticut, and then to J. H. Hale who propagated and sold them from his South Glastonbury, Connecticut, nursery.”
https://portal.ct.gov/CAES/Fact-Sheets/Plant-Pathology/Chestnuts-and-the-Introduction-of-Chestnut-Blight

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By: Raina Featherdance Clement https://modernfarmer.com/2023/09/american-chestnut-tree-coming-back/#comment-71031 Sat, 03 Feb 2024 22:29:46 +0000 https://modernfarmer.com/?p=150232#comment-71031 Most of the “cultural” practices that touch on supposed Native authority over the land are based in (and justified with) their religious beliefs.

But just I believe that Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Wiccans, Satanists, and ALL other religious groups should NOT be allowed to force their beliefs (OR their culture, which is knitted to those beliefs) upon other people?

I also do not believe that Native Americans should be permitted to claim and exercise authority over the public “goods” of the lannd, just because their religion/culture SAYS that they’re supposed to.

In all the worlds that have existed before through all of time, not ONCE has it ever ended well when people of one particular faith/ethnicity/culture were granted special privileges that were totally inaccessible to people who had NOT been born into that community.

And I say this as someone whose paternal grandfather was Ohio Shawnee, and who still lives in Appalachia. I am looking at this issue from a *humanist* perspective—and I believe that ALL people should be permitted access to these blight-resistant trees. If not for the meat, nuts, greens, mushrooms, and other foods that my Dad gathered in the forest every year, my family would have starved. We were (and still are) poor.

When I think of the woods full of chestnut trees again—I see the opportunity for FOOD. For rural, low-income people to have a new source of protein, fat, and carbohydrates; or to gather and sell, and use the money to pay bills or buy groceries that can’t be foraged.

I guess the bottom line for me is, when it comes to free, natural sources of FOOD; there is no ethical or moral justification for “gatekeeping”, or for making access contingent upon people agreeing to allow their privacy to be invaded by special caretakers who have the “correct” bloodline—the implication being that everyone ELSE is somehow not “qualified” to care for a TREE in its own natural habitat. Which is either foolish, bigoted, or both.

We cannot undo the wrongs of the past by harming innocent people *today* who need the chestnut available as a free food and feed source, again. If we gatekeep every plant, animal, rock, mountain, prairie, canyon, river, island, volcano, lake, forest, and so forth that SOME NA tribe considers “sacred”, then nobody would ever be allowed to leave their homes.

I read recently that a NA tribe is trying to claim gatekeeping authority over the moon. The MOON! As if there is a valid argument in which the moon somehow belongs MORE to the tribe because it features in their religious traditions. As if it DOESN’T feature in almost EVERY religious tradition!

GREED is not a Shawnee value or tradition. AVARICIOUSNESS isn’t either. I just hope that MY tribe and MY people have nothing to do with all of this grabby, self-serving acquisitiveness. In a land where “freedom of (and FROM) religion” is the ultimate law, laying claim to assorted natural resources because they have some involvement with this or that ritual or practice, is just NOT going to work.

It’s like if Jewish people decided to gatekeep the entire city of Jerusalem for themselves, because (1) they were there FIRST, and (2) it’s an important part of their culture. However, it’s ALSO a vital part of the culture of at least 5 other religions—maybe more. It doesn’t matter at this point in time whether the Jews were there FIRST; what matters is that Jerusalem is sacred to a LOT more people than JUST Jews. And so the city is shared, as it should be.

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By: William Oliveri https://modernfarmer.com/2023/09/american-chestnut-tree-coming-back/#comment-70926 Wed, 31 Jan 2024 19:14:18 +0000 https://modernfarmer.com/?p=150232#comment-70926 The blight came from Japan, not Europe.

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By: Kalu https://modernfarmer.com/2023/09/american-chestnut-tree-coming-back/#comment-70745 Fri, 26 Jan 2024 02:42:19 +0000 https://modernfarmer.com/?p=150232#comment-70745 Obidiya

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By: Mike https://modernfarmer.com/2023/09/american-chestnut-tree-coming-back/#comment-69608 Mon, 11 Dec 2023 02:06:28 +0000 https://modernfarmer.com/?p=150232#comment-69608 This article had such promise. Unfortunately the blight of leftist drivel infected it.

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By: Alan https://modernfarmer.com/2023/09/american-chestnut-tree-coming-back/#comment-68390 Thu, 12 Oct 2023 17:40:26 +0000 https://modernfarmer.com/?p=150232#comment-68390 I always read anything I can about chestnut restoration, but this article is ridiculous. Way too long and endlessly whiny. Let’s just get to planting the transgenic chestnuts and get on with restoring the species. There is no other way.

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By: Concerned about the Agenda https://modernfarmer.com/2023/09/american-chestnut-tree-coming-back/#comment-68127 Wed, 04 Oct 2023 11:15:19 +0000 https://modernfarmer.com/?p=150232#comment-68127 Can someone explain to me how we justify saying “European colonization brought the fungus that killed all these trees”?! Like what? I understand the stigma to demonize colonization but seriously that’s a reach. The fungus originated in Japanese chestnut and that’s how it was brought here. The Japanese chestnut was being brought over for cultivation and that’s how the fungus was introduced. Come on.

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By: Dskflwr https://modernfarmer.com/2023/09/american-chestnut-tree-coming-back/#comment-67880 Wed, 27 Sep 2023 17:30:48 +0000 https://modernfarmer.com/?p=150232#comment-67880 Deer were mentioned a bit saying they had to be fenced out from eating the seedlings. Are you going to provide fencing to all who try to grow these since the deer will eat them right away?

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